Mon 19 May 2008
The frenzy of Snackr downloading seems to be slowing down at last, but with more than 5250 downloads (and 500 mostly positive tweets on Twitter, including a plug by @scobleizer), I have to admit that I’m greatly surprised at how much interest there’s been. Frankly, I assumed Snackr would only appeal to a very small number of people; I figured most people would look at it and say “Huh? Why would I want this thing crawling across my screen?” (as, indeed, a number of people have).
After reading through a lot of the tweets and blog posts about Snackr, it seems to me that different people like different things about it. Some people like the design; others like the “up-to-the-minute” feel it gives (somewhat illusory, since it currently only updates each feed every 45 minutes for politeness); others are simply mesmerized by the crawl.
But I think the core of what a lot of people like about it is the same reason I built it originally: the randomness factor. It’s the idea that you don’t have to actually force yourself to keep up with every single thing on every feed, because you don’t have time to do that anyway; you can just sample. It’s very liberating, and it leads you to read items from feeds you don’t normally look at that often.
(Not everybody agrees with this idea; I’ve seen a number of tweets from people saying they didn’t think Snackr would work well if you have a lot of feeds, suggesting that they really want to read everything. In my view, Snackr doesn’t work well unless you have a lot of feeds; if you don’t have much to read, it would just scroll the same stuff by over and over again. But some people do seem to be interested in using it that way.)
Of course, the randomness could be decoupled from the ticker-style presentation; normal blog readers could easily implement a “pick random recent stuff for me” as well (in fact, I’m kind of surprised that popular readers like Google Reader and Bloglines don’t already have this). One of the early tweets about Snackr said “it’s almost what I want: a twhirl-like RSS reader” (twhirl is a popular Twitter client, also built with AIR). I didn’t quite get that at first–wouldn’t that just be like a normal blog reader? But it occurred to me that what he meant was that it would always feel like a mix of new stuff was showing up on top.
That idea, combined with the fact that there are definitely a lot of people turned off by the constant crawl of the ticker (and the lack of ability to control it directly), made me think that it would be worth adding a non-ticker mode to Snackr–a manually-scrollable list of items that would update itself every few minutes. It would still randomly sample feeds the same way the ticker does; it just wouldn’t distract you with constant motion.
This mode would probably be useful for other reasons as well. For example, I’ve started implementing a “star” button on items, so you can mark items you want to keep around to read later. I was originally thinking that when you wanted to read your starred items, Snackr would just switch to showing only starred items in the ticker. But it occurred to me that you might also just want a list of all your starred items that you could manually scroll through. Having a non-ticker mode would fulfill that need.
Anyway, since I have an actual day job (remember Thermo?), I probably won’t get to this immediately. (Not to mention the tons of other great suggestions and bug reports I’ve been getting.) But now that so many people are using it, I have a lot of incentive to keep improving it! Of course, people might tire of it quickly–it’ll be interesting to see how many people are still running Snackr a month down the road.
Now, if I’d only figured out a way to get ads into it…
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May 19th, 2008 at 7:42 pm
I think I was the one who made the “twhirl-like RSS reader” remark and although I meant to reflect my relief with losing the unread count that most RSS readers display, the randomness is quite welcome too.
The list of suggestions is excellent and I hope you get to address some of them soon. I just wish for an option to not display a post once I’ve clicked on it and read it in the pop-up window (much like google Reader’s ‘mark as read’ when you scroll past the post). Hopefully this app succeeds to such an extent that you won’t need an actual day job
Thanks.
May 21st, 2008 at 1:08 am
@Patrix–actually, that should already be working: when you read an item, it’s not supposed to ever show up again in the ticker. There were originally bugs where items might show up twice within a short period of time, but that should theoretically be fixed now. Thanks!
May 21st, 2008 at 8:29 am
Mike Downey, posted it on Pownce, http://pownce.com/mdowney/
Thank you very much for this app, this is exactly what I’ve been looking for. so many of the other apps, are integrated into browsers, or are way too bloated. I’ve been looking for a random(relative) feed sweeper.
only request: on the next version, can you make it minimize into the notification area on windows?
May 21st, 2008 at 8:45 pm
Love the app! It’s almost exactly what I’m looking for. The only thing that keeps me from using it is the size of the bar. If there was a way to either shrink/remove the favicons or adjust the size, I’d be able to keep it open all the time (especially given my limited laptop screen real estate)
Great Job!
May 22nd, 2008 at 12:03 am
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May 22nd, 2008 at 9:00 pm
Im loving this app. the only thing i would like to see is a way to have the button on the taskbar minimize to the system tray. other than that it is great!
May 26th, 2008 at 9:37 am
thanx a lot but for a beautiful work! but it is useless for me without cyrillic support.
moreower, it could be sweet if it could hide to tray without being an eyesore on the taskbar.
May 28th, 2008 at 6:49 pm
This is really a great application. I never really liked RSS readers but this one is just too great looking and usefull to not use. Looking forward to see the next available features !
Great job !
May 31st, 2008 at 7:12 am
One of the things on the wish list:
Sync feed lists/read items with popular blog readers (bloglines, google reader, newsgator, etc.) and/or use a web-based blog reader as a back-end through api
Yes!! This would make Snackr 100% perfect!
June 2nd, 2008 at 2:46 pm
Snackr is actually one of those worldview-shattering technologies to me, and I know two things.
1) That I’m not alone, and
2) That it might make me dumb or crazy.
Snackr itself doesn’t really do a whole lot. It just takes my feeds and scrolls them randomly on my screen.
But _visually_ it does so much more.
I had a hard time getting into RSS feeds for years even though I loved the concept. But the problem at first was that I was logging into Google reader once a day, and seeing hundreds of articles. Many I had already read, many I didn’t care to read, and the fact that I had to remember to go check them out bothered me.
Then I started using desktop clients to train my brain for “river of news” mode. I used Attensa for a few weeks and liked it, but the bugs started getting the best of me. Still, I subscribed to more feeds than I knew I would ever read, and left the client running at all times. Again, I did this for no reason other than to train myself to be used to the “river of news” flow, and to be able to realize I had no control over the flow of information, and I was lucky to be able to jump in and out as I pleased.
But then, just as I began tweeting daily asking for new feeds and new desktop readers, Snackr came along.
And while I can’t expect it would have such a shattering effect on anyone else, I realized it was exactly what I was looking for:
An application that literally flows my news in a river, one that I can pay attention to or ignore at my leisure, but — most importantly — an application that actually causes me to read _more_ items daily since it is always so close to my fingertips.
It’s changed the way I look at RSS feeds and for that reason I couldn’t be happier.
June 29th, 2008 at 7:12 pm
Hi nj, this looks like a lovely application to deal with the everlasting flow of new posts in the dozens of feeds in my Google Reader.
However, I do have one concern. Maybe I just don’t really understand how it works, but as far as I can see you are randomly taking unread stuff from my feeds to display in Snackr, right? Some posts I’ll notice, others I won’t. But what if I really don’t want to miss posts of certain feeds?
For example, my girl friend only writes on her blog every few weeks or so, but I don’t want to miss any of those posts. While at the same time I have a few feeds like digg, techcrunch and mixx that have dozens of new posts every day, and I don’t care much for most of those.
Maybe it’s an idea to make it possible to give certain feeds higher priority so that they are displayed more often until you’ve read them?
June 30th, 2008 at 3:28 am
It will be great if the Snackr application can be mimised to the tray instead of the taskbar. It makes it look neater.
July 1st, 2008 at 5:48 am
@Quicky–yup, that was actually part of my original idea for Snackr, but I haven’t implemented the prioritization scheme yet. It’s definitely something I want, as I have the same issue (some feeds I want to read every post from, others I just want to sample). I’m also planning to add categories, so you can choose to have the ticker only show items from a given category.
@System64–hoping to get that in soon; a lot of people are requesting it.
July 2nd, 2008 at 4:16 am
ok - snackr is one of the coolest apps i have installed since twitterific - completely restored my interest in my many dozen rss fees… problem: currently it is chowing 21% of my processor on a meaty macbook-pro any thoughts on getting the processor hit under control?
July 7th, 2008 at 5:06 am
@andrew–yup, performance is an issue on the Mac at the moment. I’m hoping to get the AIR team to look at the issue and see if they can figure out what’s going on.
July 24th, 2008 at 1:08 am
yeah I keep trying to stretch and resize the Snackr on the right side bar to either squeeze it down temporarily or make it biGGer for a moment. I crave a different kind of information. not just news but stuff that comes out from some rss feeds, life. I may have a multitude of windows open on my three screens, yet I want to make the Snackr Wide sometimes. So I can see your cousins blogs from Singapore and PI and Japan as they wave at me on their blogs from overseas, how about making color selection for certain blogs so that they stick out?? Not just changing the icon as there are so many and they don’t stand out. Use a particular color for a few of the feeds so that as they pass by the brain and eye will automatically train to it just for a moment and as the eye brain translation makes the dissemination of new or old or important, the background color would have done its job.
October 16th, 2008 at 10:27 pm
I downloaded Snackr last night. It’s just too perfect for me. I absolutely love it and I doubt I’ll ever want to compute without an app like this again. In less than 24 hours Snackr has revolutionized my desktop. I have a large, wide screen with a high resolution and this app, along with a couple google desktop widgets, makes my screen a lot more efficient and will save me plenty of time.